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Between Worlds (2)

Between Worlds (2)
Copyright ©2007, Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $

A re-work of a composite image that I posted last year. Feedback welcome of whatever variety.

Photographer: Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $
Folder: Eugene Donohoe - Misc Rated
Uploaded: 2007-Jan-19 13:37 EST
Current Rating: 9.88/8 (Weighted rating: 9.25)
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Camera: Olympus E-1
Lens: Olympus 14-54mm f2.8/3.5
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ISO: 100
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i like it last year and like it this year... i noticed the reflections in the eyes...so cool ...those are nice eyes too ;-))

dee vee HoF Win ¤ $1 at 13:44 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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Thank you very much deevee for your very generous comment and rating. As you can see I am in the middle of fording an image processing stream so I'm very grateful for feedback, even that which is not so keen ....... but I very much appreciate yours too!

Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $ at 14:14 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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well Eugene, Denis and yourself are masters at this BW conversion and processed images so i'm afraid i don't have much to add to your expertise for I'm still learning ...All i can say is how much i appreciate the work that's gone into an image like this ...it requires both skill, hard work and patience, some of those i don't have ...cheers ;-))

dee vee HoF Win ¤ $1 at 14:39 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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Good one Eugene,

I like the surreal feel and the PS work.The toning is also very nice.

Regards,H.

Hakan Aker HoF ¤ at 14:49 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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i like this image alot eugene beautifull tones and the eyes are great alot of work must have gone into this. i like your images keep em coming

andy mclean ¤ at 15:02 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

Brilliant.

And that's all I'm going to say.

Tom Francis ¤1 at 15:38 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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Hakan Andy and Tom

Thanks very much to all of you for the feedback - really appreciate this. Thanks again!

Also deevee thanks again for coming back and for your words.

All feedback of whatever variety is really welcome. Cheers! Off for a pint or two now .....

Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $ at 15:55 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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Eugene, nice to see this as a monochrome/duotone. Of course, it has all of the wonderful elements of the color version, but with a slightly different feel to it. This version seems to make the door an even stronger focal point, and the relationship beteween the figure and the door seems to have more emphasis. I find that the reflections in the eyes are more subtle than in the color version, and I like that fact; I'm fond of subtle little details that require one to look a bit more closely at an image to see them. Some of the symbolism of the color version (especially that of the sky, where the RH side of the sky respresented Hope to me) is not so obvious in this version. That's a good thing, in this case, as I think the monochrome version benefits from the more centralized focus on the other elements. I can't say that I like either image any better than the other--they are equally fantastic, each in their own way.

Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤1 $ at 16:19 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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I've stared at this for some time now, mostly in awe at the work that must have gone into it. I did try to make some sense of the symbolism, but failed miserably as usual. I even took into the bath with me, but wandered off on a tangent thinking about why the sands settle into wonderful patterns like that while trying to find a metaphor in that. Without actually thinking this was ever your intention.

By the way, what a fine canvas your base image makes. I am fortunate enough to remember its first arrival at MFT.

Can I offset any annoyance my following comments might cause by pointing out that they just might indicate how long I've looked at this.

You seem to have taken the trouble to show the your correct side in the reflection, but shouldn't you have swapped hands with the guitar to create the illusion of a mirror image. Also doesn't the perspective ratio of you and the door in the reflection need to be changed (ie to bring the door to the fore)? I'll refrain from being pedantic about the eyes being unaturally far apart, because I can see why they need to be so.

As you so obviously relesh a challenge, how about shifting yourself forward slightly and adding some footprints next time! :0)

Hmm, how can I make all those "complaints" and yet still nominate it? Quite easily I think!

Chris Cooke HoF ¤1 at 21:06 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

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Thank the photo Gods we have some Jerry Ulsman fans in this house.

I am a fan of the obscure, not obscura...lol

Nice revisit. Maybe we all should have a crack at each other's images, I am just not sure how Edwin will be able to e-mail a PSD of his montages...

jeff eichen HoF ¤1 at 23:10 EST on 2007-Jan-19 [Reply]

WOW

How much time spent for this great work. Fantastic details. Photo looks bright as if glowing. Even thumbnailed, it just invites people to click and see.

Jakop Iskandar ¤1 at 03:59 EST on 2007-Jan-20 [Reply]

Mirror image

Eugene, I see that Chris mentions the same thing I did on a previous performance of this - the incongruity of the guitar case position in the reflection. It's funny that this is such an obviously manufactured (impossible) image - which I happily accept - that I can't accept the guitar case being on the wrong side! I felt that way before and I still feel that way. LOL - The door reflections have reality issues as well but they don't bother me at all. The vignette is quite sudden and gives the impression that the scene is being viewed through a foggy portal of some description (binoculars, telescope, or just imagination). However, the suddenness of the vignette corners, and the way the other objects are placed, gives the composition a looseness that doesn't appeal to me. There's a lot of space between the elements and they seem placed in a way that plugs gaps rather than integrates the composition. I'm thinking it would work better for me if things didn't appear so placed in the corners and there was more diversity in the size of those elements. Maybe I'm not articulating this very well! Anyway, that's the impression I'm left with. Others have said all I would want to say about the PP. I see a face - midway between your right foot and the paper note - in the light ribbon of sand. Intentional?

Rob Smith HoF Win ¤ $1 at 06:51 EST on 2007-Jan-20 [Reply]

Absolutely fabulous

I keep coming back to take a closer look. I really like the B&W conversion and the tones in the photo. That the perspective of the image in the eyes is nt correct does not bother me too much. I think that it just makes it more surreal.

Wiliam Wagenaar ¤ $1 at 07:17 EST on 2007-Jan-20 [Reply]

Thank you all ++++++++ !!

Thanks a million everyone for such fantastic and diverse feedback. I really appreciate this. I am rushing out now but will get back to you all for individual feedback later today or for definite in the morning. Thanks a million sincerely!

Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $ at 08:02 EST on 2007-Jan-20 [Reply]

Thought provoking

Hi Eugene, I am awed by the amount of thoughts and labor that must have gone into this project. I am not familiar with the work of Stephen King but I remember Carl Sagan's Contact. At the end the lady scientist got transported to a planet near the star Vega. There she met the spirit of her dead father on a beach. Looking into the eyes here I see reflections of the guitarist and the back side of the door. But I cannot figure out what the white rectangle is.

H. K. Tang ¤ ¤ $1 at 09:37 EST on 2007-Jan-20 [Reply]

Thanks again everyone ...

Elisabeth thank you very much for your comments and especially so for the detailed nature of them. Iím glad you like it thus and echoes my own feeling about it. I think that the b/w toning and the vignette helps to centralize the subjects focal point and I like this better in this version. Thanks again.

Chris; Many thanks also for such varied and challenging feedback. Really appreciate this from you and Iím impressed you took into the bath!! Such dedicated critique is surely appreciated by me. Thanks for the way you did the critique too Ė very thoughtful of you. So about the reflection and the guitar swap! Yes this point is totally valid from you. No quibble here from me. You and Rob are totally correct here. I did think a lot about this when it was first raised and yes it would be very easy fro me to swap this around but in the intervening time I kind of like it this way, even though it looks wrong, I like it for itís very quirkiness and surrealness. Maybe though itís just that Iím a stubborn old bugger too!, but hey, Iím not that bad either, I think Ö. So while you and Rob have done me a big favour by challenging me and helping me to re-look and re-visit this I think I am going to leave it as it is, probably, maybe Ö !! Thanks for the comment about the eyes! The issue of the door, is that the idea for me is that the journey involves passing through different doors but perhaps I have not achieved this idea in its conveyance so well. The footprints suggestion is a good one but I fancied the idea of me just coming into the frame with no lead in as it were. Chris I really value your thoughts and for sharing them with me. Thanks again.

Jeff; Thanks very much for your comments and suggestions. Yes an interesting idea to revisit each otherís images. Who would be up for such a thing?!

Thank you very much Jakop

Rob; ! You have a brother in arms re the reflection issue in Chris! I hope you donít mind my copy and paste here, but I can't say it any different way but I do thank you sincerely;-) So about the reflection and the guitar swap! Yes this point is totally valid form you. No quibble here from me. You and Rob are totally correct here. I did think a lot about this when it was first raised and yes it would be very easy fro me to swap this around but in the intervening time I kind of like it this way, even though it looks wrong, I like it for itís very quirkiness and surrealness. Maybe though itís just that Iím a stubborn old bugger too!, but hey, Iím not that bad either, I think Ö. So while you and Rob have done me a big favour by challenging me and helping me to re-look and re-visit this I think I am going to leave it as it is, probably, maybe Ö !! Your comment about the portal pleases me greatly as this is what I was trying to achieve in this version so thank you thank you thank you. The downside of this as detailed by you gives me pause for thought as I think that you have a point here. My dilemma is that I kind of like the positioning of everything and I remember spending ages agonizing over this when I was working on it. I wonder about a less strong vignette and perhaps some burning in the central area, but very slight. Hmmm. Stumped about that one but you give me something to think about. The face wasnít intentional but now youíre giving me ideas! Thanks again Rob. Appreciated.

William; Thanks very much for your comments.

HK, Thank you very much for your comments and appreciation. Thatís an interesting comparison and thanks for that. The white rectangle is a reflection of catchight.

Thanks once again everyone for your time, for sharing your thoughts and for being so constructive. I really appreciate that. Cheers!

Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $ at 06:33 EST on 2007-Jan-21 [Reply]

Coming late ...

to this, Eugene, I can only add my admiration for the lot of work youīve put in it. Great image.

Best wishes,

Horst Schmier HoF Win ¤ $1 at 18:36 EST on 2007-Jan-21 [Reply]

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Always welcome

Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $ at 02:59 EST on 2007-Jan-22 [Reply]

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Always welcome Horst. Thanks for your comments.

Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $ at 03:00 EST on 2007-Jan-22 [Reply]